Oil Boiler Installer Federation Meeting Notes

November/December 2013

Federation welcomes new Corporate Associate member Envirostore UK Ltd

Federation continues to provide help and advice services to Federation members

Federation supports UK Government challenge to EU’s proposals to use old standards for Nox emissions from burners.

Federation monitors and responds to government consultations

Federation influences changes to British Standards for Oil Heating Engineers

Federation reviewing Gas industry British Standards/European Directive for any consequential effect on Gas Heating Engineers

Federation creates proposal for cross industry definition of a boiler compartment.

Sept/October 2013

Federation submits request to BSI for a clear and workable on site applicable definition of a “Compartment” for oil and gas boiler installations

Federation attends BSI meetings on behalf of members

Federation submits “EU Directive V CE marking of burners” concerns to Government to avoid CE marked burners made available for engineers to use not being complaint with ERP Directive.

Federation publishes outcomes of liaison with Government in Autumn newsletter.

Federation Joins forces with FPS to enable the reporting of unsafe oil tank installations.

August 2013

Federation formally submits members views concerns and comments on BS 5410 Part 1 to Bsi.

Trade press embargo against Federation successfully challenged and lifted.

Department of Communities and Local Government investigating Federation concerns.

Gas Safety Concerns for commercial gas burner engineers raised with British Standards Institute. Federation to represent engineers on BSi Gas standards technical committee.

Membership increasing!

Communities & Local Government respond to Federation concerns.

July 2013

BS 5410 Part 1 circulated to Federation members for comment and review.

Positive meeting held with Communities and Local Government civil servants opening lines of communication such that the voice of Federation members can and will be heard.

June 2013

Federation meeting with Civil Servants to discuss Competent Persons Schemes and Federation members complaints and concerns confirmed for July

Federation Blackballed by oil boiler industry magazine!

Federation Council agrees new actions

New Council Elected for the next 12 months

AGM held at EOGB Energy Products Ltd

May 2013

Challenge raised to British Standards Institute over unworkable standard requirements!

Federation reports Competent Persons Scheme provider to Under Secretary of State for not investigating engineer complaint!

OFTEC “technician relief” announcement satisfies part of Federation member complaint.

April 2013

Working with Bsi on CEN appliance manufacturers data provision for engineers.

Federation now represents members on British Standard Technical committee RHE/13 for oil boiler equipment and installation standards

Under Secretary of State Rt Hon Don Foster MP confirms that technician’s right’s are enshrined in new Competent Person schemes operating standard EN 45011 and that CP schemes are now monitored on behalf of government to make sure that rule and rights are adhered to – if you make a formal complaint to a CP scheme it HAS to be dealt with properly or else it can be taken to a higher level as a contravention of the licence issued to it by government!!!!

March 2013

Formal written position submitted to Communities and Local Government minister.

February 2013

Competent persons schemes pushing unfair “warranty” insurance – Federation taking the fight to Government!

January 2013

Latest EU labeling Directive working documents show improved position for installers. Half of installer (dealer) label production requirements removed from working documents – Federation working with controls manufacturer’s representative body TACMA and Govt department DEFRA to get all installer (dealer) label production requirements removed!

December 2012

Federation raises engineer concerns over EU Labeling Directive with UK Government. The proposal could cost engineers circa £88m in lost time and additional training costs and expenses!

November 2012

Website hits averaging over 500+ per month!
Installer EuP labeling requirements – more news expected in December
Federation to meet with Government to make technician rights compulsory!
Federation wins improved rights for Competent Person scheme members – press release to follow!

October 2012

Green Deal review – what does it really mean to you? Federation questions and challenges latest information for consumers as genuine engineers will loose their customers!

September 2012

Federation raises awareness and concerns over proposed new consumer laws
Over 2.5k hits to website to date.
Competent person scheme Chairman personally investigating Federation Member Concerns
Federation asked to comment on British Standards
New Corporate Associate member Dobies Heat Centers Ltd signs up in Scotland
Press publishes trade reporting service details
CLG officials agree to meet with federation officials

August 2012

Federation Director Glen Rae attends complaint hearing supporting federation member meeting with Competent Person Scheme Main Board Chairman
Federation adopts new image & logo
Reporting Service receives its first submissions about boiler problems in the North East of England
Federation launches new online problem reporting service
Federation circulates CLG Competent Persons Schemes report and new rules

July 2012

Federation Mission Statement published.
1st manufacturer Tuffa UK Ltd formally supports federation and signs up as a corporate associate
Andrew Stunell MP, Under Secretary of State confirms that CP scheme gave contrary advice to CLG officials! CP Scheme Chairman now to personally hear complaint!!!
new federation Mems & Arts being drafted to enshrine the principles of being not for profit and being run by and for members.
press articles published to let the trade know what is really going on.
Challenge made against false statements contained in Under Secretary of State’s letter
Federation executive stands firm in support of trade

June 2012

Under Secretary of State responds to federation concerns.
DEFRA Challenge EU in Brussels following Federation meeting
Federation holds one to one meeting with DEFRA – strengthens case against EU proposals for engineers!
Inaugural Council formed from membership – meeting a great success and start.
Over 1000 + websites hits recorded.
News articles published in PHAM and H&V news.
DEFRA support for Federation challenge to EU Directive!
Federation challenges EU Commission Directive

May 2012

Member Complaint about a CP scheme upheld – Federation to take action!
BRE Director takes up Federation comments
Industry support received for federation work
Oil boiler installer magazine advert published.
Federation submits consultation response to Government advisers pointing out impracticalities in their proposals for Heating Engineers
Federation attracts massive interest – over 500 website hits in first week!
Press run with federation challenge to radiator manufacturers.
Federation asks: How “Green” does an installer have to be to sign up to the Green Deal?
Press release launch in trade press
Federation now running on twitter.
Federation throws down gauntlet to radiator manufacturers to provide installers with realistic radiator output data which does not have to be re-calculated for normal jobs!
Federation officially launched 1st May 2012.

April 2012

Challenge being compiled for submission to CLG regarding onerous and unescesery insurance and other requirements being placed on Competent Technicians and Engineers whilst at the same time Govt is proposing to relax the insurance backed requirements for approved inspectors!!! Contact Glen Rae for further info.

Engineers and technicians collated response submitted to CLG (Building regs) challenging proposals for additional “consequential works” to be carried out when a boiler is replaced. Contact Alan Black for further info.